Curse

Gomezie · Sep 13, 2005, 04:06 PM // 16:06

I admit im one of those farmers on SF.. but my intentions are good, i know they only sell for a little.. but these weapons are uber for lower level characters, so im hording for my guildies and any new characters i may start.

Wish most people would appreciate the special items more.. i know alot like me do :/

TaG Eledhel · Sep 13, 2005, 06:39 PM // 18:39

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Originally Posted by KuTeBaka

they always drop one green item when they are killed, you are just really unlucky or maybe they dont drop with henchies. just go with other people.

complete myth and nonsense, i have been in with full team no henchies, spent 3 hours farming outside sorrows where there is normally 5-6 bosses, we killed every boss, went in sorrows and came ou and did it all over again 4 times in a row, 4 x 6 bosses, 24 drops, total green items from the whole group 2 green items, 3 gold items, the rest plain items, so to say they drop green everytime is totally wrong..this whole update is a farce, green items are generally inferior when u get them ( i have 7 green items all poor quality weapons ), gold items have become pretty much worthless, chest drops are a joke , with a key costing 600 gold and the average drop worth maybe 150-250 gold. the whole economy of the game has become a joke, with the cost of skills, the amount of green weapons from what are basically labourious but easy boss kills , soon the game will be flooded with green items ( just check out lions arch and see the WTS msgs in trade) and gold items becoming worthless now because of it all ( i have gold max fellblade, before update could sell for 100k+ now i cant sell for 20k ) seems people are stuck with lots of worthless weapons with everyone picking up green and soon the whole gold economy will come crashing down. as far as im concerned Anet have ruined the game with the green drops and the chest updates. yes the game had a ew bugs and issues but now its just a farce. part of the njoyment was hoping for that elusive gold drop of a max dmg weapon, haggling with other players for deals, wondering if you were gonna be the lucky one at a chest, now its all about keys and green items, with no skill or luck involved. only thing left now is to farm for more money to buy keys for worthless weapons
and gt overated armour which costs the earth but has no better qualities ( pur bling status and nothing more) .. oh and the final complaint...sorrows is FoW and UW all over again with everyone screaming for monks...the game is so unbalanced its not true..ok rant over critisize all you want

ChoKILLate[FDG] · Sep 13, 2005, 07:11 PM // 19:11

Yay, I got the Yak Slapper!...and I'm keeping it just so I can say, " Does anyone want to see my Yak Slapper"

I got it when me and one guildy went in with 6 henches. I have yet to see a green drop IN furnace, but frequently see green outside.

Pandora's box · Sep 13, 2005, 07:19 PM // 19:19

I figure the real problem is not the droprate but the fact that there's so little to do in this game after getting to level 20. Players want to obtain something tangible for their effords. Those green items are such a thing. The SF level looks great, but why do all kinds of missions if it does not make you stronger? In the end this discussion is always about the same thing: better items (and/or more levels). Not being able to find something better is the real cause of annoyment. Not the droprate.

Slimcea · Sep 13, 2005, 08:14 PM // 20:14

I've just about given up hope of obtaining any greens from SF/Grenths. 3 trips into SF clearing 80% of the creatures there and over a dozen runs in GF have produced a grand total of ONE green drop, in SF with 7 henchies at that.. Normal 3 hench runs in GF have been totally futile..

Has anyone ever actually managed to get a green when doing with henchies?

jdwoody · Sep 13, 2005, 09:29 PM // 21:29

Look about 5 posts up, I got a green w/ 5 henchies and me...

burai · Sep 13, 2005, 09:33 PM // 21:33

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Originally Posted by Chobby

it's a game and u guys are crying over not getting this and that. stop farming and play the game, enjoy it.

The key here (if you will excuse the pun) is 'enjoy it'. Some people enjoy collecting rare items - myself included. When we fail to find these after repeated attempts it can get a little frustrating. As I have said in several previous posts - you play it your way, we'll play it ours.

I also seem have completely failed to find any greenies after many outings with the henchies, the thieving ----.

karunpav · Sep 13, 2005, 10:04 PM // 22:04

I agree with burai. It's just natural to get frustrated and flustered at times, but it's a GAME, you don't have to get shove-your-keyboard-down-someone's-throat mad. And the way you play is up to you, whether that be farming or slowly progressing through the story.

I also think that henchies "steal" drops. I tried farming griffons with Alesia and I only got a clean 12-17 damage Fellblade. Not joking. And I cleaned out the whole place. I wasn't happy. So i just got a real person and actually finished cleaning out the field in a lot less time than with the Alesia. So just get a real person. Lot less time, lot more efficient.

Aera Lure · Sep 13, 2005, 11:08 PM // 23:08

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Originally Posted by Mike Legend

What's the deal with warriors getting all the drops?

I believe damage dealt or saved per battle is part of the algorithm.

Thorin · Sep 14, 2005, 01:40 AM // 01:40

I found 3 greens on the first day with henchies, but I haven't had much luck here lately. I think I've found 2 greens in 6 or 7 runs maybe.

Starbeast · Sep 14, 2005, 01:45 AM // 01:45

I got two greens from a pure henchie team.. pure luck

Red Sonya · Sep 14, 2005, 08:16 AM // 08:16

HAHAHA I can't help but laugh at some of you here. You remind me of the whiners that I heard at the bar in Las Vegas, who put their last dime into slot machines and got nothing and some lucky fool behind them came to that very machine and won the jackpot on the first pull.

Basically that's the way these green drops are setup, you got your slot "feeders" you losers and then you have the slot winners (the lucky ones).

Face it some of you were just born unlucky, and someone has to be the buyers while others are the sellers of these nice green items. If everyone got an equal share of green drops there would be no economy for them. And their market value would plummet. Just like gold drops used to be and for many still are.

Some of you will just have to be coin farmers the rest of your GW days, you'll never see a quality rare drop on maybe only one in your lifetime as a GW player. You'll have to dig in the dirt so to speak like the minimum wage earners of our society, scrimping and saving all of your days to finally be able to afford something decent. That's just the way life is and that's the way GW's is also.

aron searle · Sep 14, 2005, 08:29 AM // 08:29

I was in a team of 8, no henchies.

We killed Yakslapper, and a plain staff dropped.

Gomezie · Sep 14, 2005, 08:30 AM // 08:30

Its simple really.. get your best char and try and solo.. if not throw in some hench.

I find it a nice challenge to try and solo it.. or use as little of the henchies as i can

Daelin Redoran · Sep 14, 2005, 09:37 AM // 09:37

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Originally Posted by Aera Lure

I believe damage dealt or saved per battle is part of the algorithm.

Not really, its location. Players that are further away from the foe who dies have a lower chance of drops being assigned to them. This is why smiter monks usually get some cool drops whereas healers and protection monks need to be lucky. It's also probably why warriors get at least 1 drop per kill, whether crap or not.

Besides, if you farm an area too much within 24 hours, you'll notice the drop rate falling steeply. A good place to try this out is just outside Augury Rock, with the hydras. On the first run you'll get maybe 100g-130g per kill. After around 10 runs its 80g-90g per kill. When this happens, just leave the area and try again the next day. It should have reset. I don't know if this applies to chests as well. Pobably not though.

My best farming run in Grenths Footprint with 7 henchmen (I've omited gold drops):
2 Gold Shields (monster drops), 1 Gold Bow (chest), 1 Gold Healing Ankh (chest), Morgriffs Scepter (greeny).

That was my second run with henchmen that day lol.

Regards
Daelin

jdwoody · Sep 14, 2005, 01:51 PM // 13:51

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Originally Posted by Aera Lure
I believe damage dealt or saved per battle is part of the algorithm.

Not really, its location.

Or maybe it's just random? I hate to tell people this but afk'ers get drops. I've finished the game w/ a monk and a ranger and have a warrior doing ring of fire. I've noticed no difference between the classes getting better/more drops. Some days I'll get tons of drops, some days other people I'm with get tons of drops. That's the great thing about random, you never know what's next...

That being said, I believe there is an algorithm giving you mostly runes of classes you don't have a primary in. All I ever get are mesmer/necro runes and I don't have a primary on either.

(hopefully I don't need a sarcasm tag around the previous paragraph)

Tactical-Dillusions · Sep 14, 2005, 04:51 PM // 16:51

Heh, i just got a support survey from NCsoft.
This is what i put in the optional comments box..

I asked if my chance of getting a new green item was reduced if i play with henchmen instead of other players but the question was "blocked".
When i fired the question again in a more direct manner, it was "evaded".
I don't know what stance they took but i ran out of energy to continue the fight and i retreated.

mrmojo · Sep 14, 2005, 08:11 PM // 20:11

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Originally Posted by Gomezie

Its simple really.. get your best char and try and solo.. if not throw in some hench.

I find it a nice challenge to try and solo it.. or use as little of the henchies as i can

Me (warrior) and a monk killed around 3-4 groups outside SF with no problem, and then killed a bunch of groups inside SF too. The hardest part was having to deal with a knockdown warrior and a monk since I was the only one doing damage. At one point I had like 4 knockdown warriors, I was seriously just getting up and falling down every second.

We got absolutely nothing good though

kbealow · Sep 15, 2005, 05:12 PM // 17:12

Well in my experience I've farmed with henchmen and other players...so far I've found 5 really good green items and I got all of them while grouped with 5 henchmen...so I personally have better luck with henchmen then other players...by the way when I was grouped with other players I never got anything not even a blue item...and I farmed a lot with other players...so when I go farming I go with henchmen...or maybe with family and friends...but this is just my experience.

BlueSS · Sep 15, 2005, 06:35 PM // 18:35

I did 1 run with 5 henchmen and got 4 green items